Quit Your Whining

"PS9" (PS9)
06/03/2014 at 12:45 • Filed to: None

This is probably going to be the best muscle car you can buy until the other guys get done with their refreshes, and it improves not only upon itself, but upon it's competitors in nearly every way. A few hundred pounds here or there wasn't going to change that. Quit your whining.

The outgoing model was one of the best track worthy Muscle cars you could buy. It held it's own against an E92 M3. If this model offers even a slight improvement on that, it will be one of the greatest performance bargains ever, and few hundred pounds here or there is not going to change that. Quit your whining.

If you don't like the idea of a heavier mustang, you could always just buy one of those other numerous, sub-3000lb, sub-$40k V8 sports cars...oh wait, no you can't, because that doesn't exist. Quit your whining.

We weren't ever getting a V8 BRZ from ford. If that's what you want, get a BRZ, get an LS1 or whatever V8 you want, and get to work. More work, less whining.

Are you going to buy one? Rent one? Drive one for five minutes? Then how does a trivially heavier mustang impact you exactly? It doesn't, that's how. Quit your whining.

DISCUSSION (30)

Party-vi > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:47

Probably good to point out that this isn't directed at anyone on Oppositelock.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:48

The Mustang Ecoboost is one of the best ideas Ford has ever had, apart from the name (should've gone with SVO or something). Hopefully it will live up to its potential.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:48

But the Mustang isn't a sports car....

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:49

Damn right! We should all be grateful the 2015 Mustang is able to match the abilities and specs of the 2010 Camaro!

Party-vi > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
06/03/2014 at 12:50

Calling it SVO would be cool, but that would mean Ford had to bring back Special Vehicle Operations.

edit: now that I think about it, Ford did bring back SVO - that's the internal name for Lincoln Motor Company, except they do little air quotes when they said "special".

William Byrd > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:51

Owned a 2011 GT CS. Will own the next generation. Good post.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:51

It's my pony and I'll cry if I want to - cry if I want to, cry if I want to. You would cry too, if it happened to you.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:51

I don't care about the weight gain, especially because it's being put to good use for an IRS.

I do care how people gave the Camaro shit for so long about how much it weighed when the Mustang going to weigh close to the same now.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Party-vi
06/03/2014 at 12:52

Fair enough. I just think calling it the Mustang Ecoboost is a rather lackluster and unimaginative branding strategy. Sounds like it's supposed to be competing with a Prius. Hell, even just go consistent with your other platforms and call it the Mustang ST. Or drop the "O" and go with SV "Sports Vehicle". Like how they dropped the "V" from "SVT" to now stand for "Sports Technology"

Party-vi > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
06/03/2014 at 12:53

See THAT is s a great idea! You could have the ST performance line for people, and convince them to start at a Focus or Fiesta and then graduate up to buying a Mustang ST.

mr_gofast > PS9
06/03/2014 at 12:53

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Party-vi
06/03/2014 at 12:55

Exactly! Ford marketing team, are you listening? Want my resume? lol

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Party-vi
06/03/2014 at 12:56

But it is...

I had another unpopular opinion...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Party-vi
06/03/2014 at 12:59

Also, the last paragraph. I'm the FWD/AWD Honda and VW guy. Pretty sure I'm the one that "won't be buying one".

Party-vi > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/03/2014 at 13:03

PS9 is referring to people that bitch and moan about new cars we don't plan on buying. This would be like me ever commenting on a Ferrari or Ford article since I don't plan on buying either.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/03/2014 at 13:05

Well Ford doesn't have a direct sports car entry (a la Vette) so Ford guys say the Mustang is.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Party-vi
06/03/2014 at 13:06

Well I'll have a Mustang one day. My twisted fascination with the 4.0 V6 is well documented...

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/03/2014 at 13:08

They had one made by a guy, but they went and pissed him off, so he left.

PardonMyFlemish16 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/03/2014 at 13:22

Do u have a link to the official 2015 Mustang's HP and curb weight specs?

Racescort666 > PS9
06/03/2014 at 13:32

Kinja'd!!!

When people complain about cars they have no intention or prospect of driving.

Chteelers > PS9
06/03/2014 at 13:38

Hi.

Kinja'd!!!

I know it's not exactly what you describe, but it does support your point. There aren't really any options for high output, lightweight cars. The Z is 3200 lbs and 330hp, which isn't V8 coyote fast, but it does fit nicely between the Mustang and BRZ/Miata options.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > PardonMyFlemish16
06/03/2014 at 14:03

No, and neither do any of you. We just have the WHOLE auto journalist community telling us that it's going to be heavier. There's no way they can all be right, right?

PS9 > Chteelers
06/03/2014 at 14:12

-Not V8 Powered
-Not Sub-3k lbs
-Not selling all that well, due to imminent proximity with ~$22k cars that are almost as fast. Hope the next Z gets some more power, or otherwise becomes fast enough to be competitive again.

ChampagneChariot > PS9
06/03/2014 at 15:18

Kinja'd!!!

This is probably going to be the best muscle car you can buy until the other guys get done with their refreshes, and it improves not only upon itself, but upon it's competitors in nearly every way.

PardonMyFlemish16 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/03/2014 at 15:38

No, there isn't, when they are all repeating unsubstatiated baseless stories for clicks. Everyone repeating a story with no factual basis doesn't make it true.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > PardonMyFlemish16
06/03/2014 at 16:16

I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that you had a copy of the specs saying that it wasn't going to gain weight.

And also, it's not 2005 anymore. It's become common knowledge that click baiting can permanently damage the credibility and use of your site. I know there's some outlets out there that still do it, but sites like Jalopnik and Autoblog have a lot more to lose than to gain by engaging in the practice.

PS9 > ChampagneChariot
06/03/2014 at 16:36

The hellcat will be a faster - but not fundamentally better - Challenger. It simply doesn't have the track car potency this gen Mustang and Camaro have, which is fine since it's never claimed to be a world beater. Gonna be a while before we see a new platform carrying the challenger name.

PardonMyFlemish16 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
06/03/2014 at 17:41

Where did I say it wasn't going to gain weight? My point is neither I, nor you, nor, more importantly, the automotive journalists you trust unequivocally, know. So why get mad at me for a strawman of your own invention (the claim that I know for sure), but give Jalopnik a pass for reporting misinformation as fact, retracting it, and then reporting unverified rumors?

And just because you don't see click bait for what it is doesn't change what it is. These "articles" about the Mustang's weight gain are not based on anything factual. They are speculations and rumors framed in a way to sound like facts without actually being them. Looks a lot like click bait to me. The only story about the Mustang's weight worth publishing is the one documenting official figures from Ford. They will be out soon enough, which makes Jalopnik's click baiting that much more shameless.

ChampagneChariot > PS9
06/03/2014 at 21:22

But... But... RamAir and 650+ HP.

wiffleballtony > PS9
06/03/2014 at 23:48

Hear hear, jolly good show.